Saturday, July 15, 2023

"Tom, We Are Right, It Doesn't Matter When You Demand A Jury Trial. The Judgment Was Void, But Not Because A Ruling By A Judge Made It Void. Void Had Already Happened, The Foreclosure Case Was Void"

I was playing for time. Just for time. I played the wrong way, of course.”
Raymond Chandler


By Tom Kibler and Danny Hammond

I just got off the phone with Tom Kibler, we talked for an hour and a half and he hadn't had any coffee.  So, of course, a breakthrough moment in our conversation was not anticipated.  The question was, "We know how simple this is, but why aren't we making it simple.  "We did better than that."

We know that nearly every ruling or judgment in tens of millions of fraudulent foreclosures is a void judgment.  Void is a defined word.  Nothingness.  Not there, never was there.  Even stronger the void judgment was void ab initio.  

That is latin legalese (Then they should just speak it in Latinalia) which means "from the beginning."  

It was void the moment it was made.  Our only disagreement was how do you use that so that even a judge could understand it.  Tough assignment.

Below is the summary of how to say what really happened to all of us.  Below is the summary of the two of us and the framers of the constitution of the United States.  So, that was all we needed to make it official.  

Here is the summary of what was really going on the whole time in everyone's case:

If you demanded a jury trial before your judge ruled, what did the judge say?  In my cases and the ones I worked with, our judges just didn't address it all.  I think when you say it was a void judgment that implies that is all there is to it.. We are back to what I have been trying to say.

The judgment itself is irrelevant.